Discovery -Sarah Hammond & Jesse Carlsson and what if?

Val and I were joined in the studio by ultra-endurance racing legends Sarah Hammond and Jesse Carlsson who shared their plans, and non-plans, for exploring Australia, and a host of existential possibilities, by bike.


We talk about the differences between their experiences “touring with a sense of urgency” and their new mode of travel which will depend on connections they are able to make with both the places and communities they travel through. They’re leaving nothing behind, literally, and taking very little with them to explore just how far they can go relying on themselves and community. 

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